Monday, November 14, 2016

“Hades,” a place of conscious torment

SourceJeremy McDonald

by Jeremy McDonald, November 13, 2016

I have often wondered why "HADES" is mentioned in the bible as well as in Greek Mythology...

This is mainly because I was raised to think if it was not in the bible then it was evil or of the devil. So when I have heard reference to HADES the Greek God of the underworld and the mention of HADES in the bible...

I've paused wondering why it is in both places? Did the Christians steal this for their stories? Or were these stories passed down through years ultimately ending up in the bible writers hands? It is conceivable that the later of these thoughts is what happened even though both are very conceivable.

We already know that the bible is pieced together by groups of men declaring what the Christians would believe going forward. This is process is called a Biblical canon and the official definition of a Biblical Cannon is as follows:

A biblical canon or canon of scripture is a list of texts (or "books") which a particular religious community regards as authoritative scripture. The word "canon" comes from the Greek κανών, meaning "rule" or "measuring stick".

This means groups of people came together and decided what a mass amount of people would believe...they basically decided what the rule of authority would be as far as bible scriptures were concerned.

So with this being said it's very possible these were passed down stories or even stolen stories from other philosophies / spiritual beliefs. 

"I imagine which ever you believe would be based on your own perception of how you see the world" 

It's almost impossible to completely understand the intentions of the bible writers since we were not there with them.

Although to me in my opinion and in my research it's apparent the bible was altered and also through these Biblical Cannons it's very obvious to me large amounts of the bible were excluded from the book you and I read today. This though is a topic for a future blog...

In this case when we talk about HADES let's take a look at the stories we have. One of those stories are as follows:

(Luke 16:19–31). Lazarus was very poor, probably homeless, and definitely a beggar (verse 20). He often stayed at the gate of a rich man in hopes of getting scraps from his table. Both men died, and Jesus tells of how Lazarus was taken to “Abraham’s side,” a place of comfort and rest, while the rich man when to “Hades,” a place of conscious torment (verses 22–23).

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The last part: Hades, a place of conscious torment ; jumped out to me almost automatically that we are talking about a "DUALITY" with the opposites of Lazarus and the rich man.. during life the rich man lived a lavish life but in death he is eternally tormented and in life, Lazarus is a poor man begging for food but in the afterlife he is in a blissful happy place of comfort and rest...

So maybe we should first talk about what HADES is?

First let's start with the bible verse above because this tells us there is a place of comfort and there is a place of conscious torment... these would apparently be two very different places... or at least one would think?

What if it is one place? what if HADES is "US"?

Let's look at the words of Josephus first in his discourse to the Greeks concerning HADES:

NOW as to Hades, wherein the souls of the of  the righteous and unrighteous are detained, it is necessary to speak of it. Hades is a place in the world not regularly finished; a subterraneous region, wherein the light of this world does not shine; from which circumstance, that in this region the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must be in it perpetual darkness. This region is allotted as a place of custody for souls, ill which angels are appointed as guardians to them, who distribute to them temporary punishments, agreeable to every one's behavior and manners.

In this region there is a certain place set apart, as a lake of unquenchable fire, where into we suppose no one hath hitherto been cast; but it is prepared for a day afore-determined by God, in which one righteous sentence shall deservedly be passed upon all men; when the unjust, and those that have been disobedient to God, and have given honor to such idols as have been the vain operations of the hands of men as to God himself, shall be adjudged to this everlasting punishment, as having been the causes of defilement; while the just shall obtain an incorruptible and never-fading kingdom. These are now indeed confined in Hades, but not in the same place wherein the unjust are confined.

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To my understanding as I break down this passage metaphysically I see the following:

1. The righteous and unrighteous go and to me this is saying that every soul goes there whether they are sinners or non-sinners. This to me would indicate that HADES is a place of reflection and experience.

2. Wherein the light of this world does not shine; from which circumstance, that in this region the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must be in it perpetual darkness. The darkness to me is the "Veil" that is cast over all of us as souls on Earth. The Veil keeps us in constant darkness so we cannot see and the only way we can get out of this darkness is to have faith that our Over-soul will guide us out of darkness.

3. This region is allotted as a place of custody for souls, ill which angels are appointed as guardians to them, who distribute to them temporary punishments, agreeable to every one's behavior and manners. The punishments being distributed are "karma" what is karma? (Karma is just Cause and Effect) it comes down to what we put out there always comes back to us and because of what we have done as a planet of souls we are now living in an era of darkness on our planet. Is this is wrong place to be? I don't think so it's a place of experience... I also now believe we are coming into a new age of experience. What that will look like? I guess we shall see....

4. The last paragraph about the Lake of Unquenchable fire.... This to me metaphorically and metaphysically is about the constant torment we put on ourselves into while living in this world. What is Sin? It is only "Missing the mark" why do we miss the mark? Because we are out of balance in our lives. What makes us out of balance?  Our doubt of ourselves. The fact we do not realize who we are....

We make decisions that lead us further down the rabbit hole of darkness. Each step we take down that rabbit hole keeps us from remembering who we are... Like walking zombies we are alive but also very dead inside...

What binds us? It's interesting because the story of the Titans in the Greek myths as well as the Fallen Angels in Christianity tell us they were cast down into a dark place far below Hades and this place according to the Christians beliefs was a place of great torment.

Both the Titans and the Angels were great beings and as far as Lucifer in Angel lore he was the “morning star,” “son of the dawn,” “Day Star,” or “shining star.”

According to how the Christian believe it is Jesus who says in: Luke 10:18

“I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Satan in their beliefs is defined "enemy" or "adversary"... Very interesting... who's adversary? Well according to mainstream thought he would be God's enemy...

This is my thought and would you consider.... ? 

That God is within us and the term God might not work for you and to me it just means Universal Consciousness... None the less... it says in these two bible versus:

Psalm 82:6 -  “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’

John 10:34 -  "Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”

This is not to say we are to go run rampant and do whatever we want.... Natural Law Governs the flow of how things manifest even for great beings such as ourselves.

When we consider the Titans and Angels were great beings and Lucifer was the Morning Star and now enemy? Is this not a metaphor about making LIGHT (TRUTH) the enemy...and now we have created a world afraid of facing the truth... a world afraid of facing our true nature as the great beings we truly are...and as we deny who we are we continue the cycle of living in the land of Conscious torment... living the same nightmare over and over again until we finally says enough! and embrace our birthright as great beings of light.

As great beings that no longer need to live in the darkness, that no longer need to have a heavy veil over our consciousness... we only have to embrace ourselves on all levels this means not only the parts of ourselves we do not like but also the parts we love....

So how does this stop? I think the best way is to work on ourselves first and then as we understand ourselves and as we take the journey to open ourselves up to universal consciousness / over-souls ...then we will be able to work on the rest of the world.

Think about this for a moment... have you ever helped someone with all the greatest of intentions and as you were helping them they were in great resistance ... the more and more they resist the more and more you feel unappreciated or maybe even misunderstood... eventually this scenario might build into a fight between you and this person because of how much their actions are hurting you.

Ever had this happen?

To me in this situation and yes I have lived through it... if I am getting hurt or feel unappreciated then I already know i'm out of alignment..because if I could not give without any expectation then I am giving for selfish reasons of the ego...

So what does this have to do with this article about Hades? Well think about this...if in this situation we are tormented it means we are holding on to something or we are not strong enough in ourselves emotionally to handle this situation.

I finally had to ask myself the question when I was in similar situations like the one i'm describing above:

"What if they did not want my help? What if I am trying to impose my will on another person?"

These codependent situations cause torment in our lives.... and create a hell on earth for us internally...

Any time we are trying to control another human being whether our intentions are good or not then we will create a world of torment for ourselves.

A good majority of times it's time for us to "Let it go or let someone go..."

Let me end by saying ... by no means do I consider myself an expert but these thoughts are just something for us to ponder and maybe inspire us to dig even deeper then the thoughts I am putting into this blog. I welcome each of you to comment below your thoughts to create a dialogue.

Respectful dialogue can help us all grow spiritually.

Have any amazing day!

Much love,


About The Author

Jeremy McDonald has had a deep passion for human dynamics and has spent his adult life studying concepts of healing, mindfulness, consciousness and many other subjects. He was formally trained in Adult Learning Theories and has worked as a Corporate Trainer for a number of years. He has also been a public speaker for the past 20 years helping others find their full potential. He strives to be the constant student realizing life is only happening to it's fullest when we are expanding our growth and knowledge. We are all teachers and students and this relationship is a flow between the two. Follow him on – Facebook: @JeremyMcDonaldLLG, Twitter: @Lamplightgroup.
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